another Interview with POW  “Atki”

Interview conducted  June 2008

Thank you for this interview, have you done many while you have been behind bars?

Hello, I haven’t a problem with anyone asking me to do an interview as I’ve done some for German zines that got a lot of publicity.  I do think that political prisoners should be given a voice because many comrades seem to forget those who have done so much for the movement.

How is life behind bars for you?

My life hasn’t been that bad considering I’ve had a number of setbacks over my release but I just kept getting back up and carried on regardless but that is just life for NS prisoners as those who have been behind bars will know!  It has come to the point that the Home Office have played their part also by trying to take my enhanced status off me but my lawyer soon sorted all that out.  Also there was no evidence to show that I incited racial hatred or incited others on the outside and reports from inside prison helped my case against the system and another victory was mine! 

We do believe you are one of the longest serving White Nationalist P.O.W.s in the UK who is serving time for alleged 'race hate' offences. To begin with, could you tell us what exactly you were convicted of and how long your sentence was for?

I and my other Volunteers were jailed for a total of fifteen years for conspiring to incite Racial hatred through the RVF ‘zine Stormer and the RVF website.  I personally was given a five year sentence for inciting Racial hatred via the Stormer zine and twelve months for my alleged involvement with the RVF website (even though I don’t know a thing about computers!)  It was alleged that I was the RVF leader so therefore must have been in control of the Stormer zine and the website, however the Judge stated there was no evidence to support either claim.  The Judge asked the Police to hand over any evidence and they declined so the Judge ruled on numerous occasions that there was no leader of the RVF in the courtroom.  When he sentenced me, he did so by declaring me a ‘prime mover’ and I was subsequently given the maximum five year sentence when taking my guilty plea into account, so he added an additional twelve months on for allegedly running the website because he couldn’t give me any more for Stormer.  He did deduct fourteen percent off my sentence but then revoked it as I had a previous conviction for inciting racial hatred (Stormer zine in 1997 when I was sentenced to 21 months) so all in all I was given the full maximum sentence even though I pleaded guilty.  In addition to this, the time spent in Spanish prisons was never deducted off my final sentence when I was told that it would be by the Spanish Judge.

What did you think of the sentence you got?

Well ZOG had me by the balls, they knew that by charging the Mother of my children that I would never let her go to prison or risk losing my children until they were sixteen.  It was irrelevant what evidence they did or didn’t have on me, I couldn’t take that chance and didn’t.  It didn’t help our case when our Polish co-defendant went on bended knees and pleaded guilty to being the ‘middle-man’ involved in setting up the zines, by doing this he formed the conspiracy against us.  I told him not to do it because it was looking like they were going to drop charges against the Mother of my children, and also if he pleaded guilty it would immediately form the conspiracy charge and finish us off but he didn’t care about any of us, he did the dirty deed against his former comrades.  He even kept his negro friend a secret, Guess what?  I found out through gossip between lawyers and I told the others but they didn’t believe me until it came out in court and the negro woman actress was brought into court to testify as a witness, claiming he was not a racist.  I looked up at the gallery and the ‘big’ C18 leader couldn’t and wouldn’t look me in the eyes, he knew I wasn’t happy and I just shook my head in disgust.  Everyone who came to support us was also disgusted at the Pole’s actions.  I will NEVER mix with negro-lovers or allow them round for tea and cake like the Pole did.  He is also a thief and he believes he has got away with it.  Michael Dennis we will NEVER forget what you did to us and I’m sure our Polish comrades will not be pleased to hear about it either.  We all know you took a deal to get a heavily reduced twelve month sentence – twelve months for being a middleman when I got that for supposedly running the RVF website and I know nothing about computers!  Steve got two and a half years for his first conviction and Michael got twelve months for his plus a lower category prison (D).  Steve and Nige got refused a lower-risk prison because of their conviction (inciting racial hatred).  After being released, Benny got recalled to prison on the orders of the Home Office for another six months and even after his release he is still unaware of the reason for his being recalled for no reason, he has taken legal advice.

I was refused parole on the grounds that they have seen intelligence that I will leave the Country once I’ve been released, this is obviously because I was extradited from Spain.  This was also the reason they wouldn’t allow me to be housed in a lower category prison plus I was told that the lower category prisons would refuse to accept me due to my racist convictions and views.  Probation claimed I was a danger to ethnic groups and no doubt I will face media problems when released because of my convictions.  In fact probation even went to the local newspaper in the town where I am going to be released for that paper to report on our case because I said I will not face any problems from the local community as I’m known in that area. They even asked the local paper for their report on my sentence!  They then claimed in their parole report that not everyone agrees with Mr. Atkinson’s views, the local paper even said ‘Vile Racist Leader Jailed’!  No doubt they will know my release date so it wouldn’t surprise me if something comes out closer to the time.  I do of course anticipate some fun and games with Special Branch but I suppose that’s to be expected!

How long have you served and when do you hope to be released?

By the time I get out I will have served three years and five months out of the five years I got. (Almost seventy percent).  Concerning my release date, all I am going to say is I am out soon and I’m sure the RVF website will let everyone know when I’m a free man again!

You are now in prison in Doncaster, many miles from your home and family. From experience we have noticed that the Prison Service regularly move White Nationalist P.O.W.s from prison to prison around the country making visits difficult for their wives and kids to visit. Do you think this is a deliberate attempt by the authorities to break up White Nationalist families when one of the parents is jailed?

Having a Racial conviction will always make your prison time much more difficult, of course I believe this is all deliberate. By moving you around the system every prisoner around the World will tell me what they have had to endure, I have had lots of fun and games myself but they will not and cannot break me.  Because I have come up North (Mark is originally from the South) it has been hard for my family to see me but family and friends have helped out with that.  But I have definitely seen a difference between North and South jails, Southern jails are full of negroes and Muslims (about 85%) whereas the Northern jails are predominantly White which is much better for me!

Have you had much support?

I am very pleased by the support from Britain, Europe and USA and all through my sentence I’ve been kept up to date with the goings on within the movement.  I’d like to thank all those who have stood by me since the day I was remanded in 2005.  The friendships that I have made will make the future very interesting indeed; much has been mentioned about the movement and their views about going forward which has played big part in the RVF plans for the future. 

Other RVF volunteers were jailed with you. Are they all out of prison now and are they still active in the Cause?

I am the last RVF prisoner of war remaining in jail from the 2005 trial.  The other volunteers are all OK and sorting themselves out well.  Concerning are they still active, all I’ll say is they are very dedicated in what they do for the cause.

By giving you such a long time in prison (for what the average man in the street wouldn't even consider a crime) do you think the System thought they could break you?

ZOG knows full well that they cannot break me and they know full well that I will leave prison even stronger than I was before.  They have given me nothing while I’ve been behind bars but at the end of the day that has to be expected because I am a constant thorn in their side.  They thought by putting me away for over three years that the RVF would crumble but yet again I have had the last laugh on them, do they think that me and others did all that hard work to see it go down the drain?!  We planned for when we got sent to prison, many seeds across Europe were sown and they have taken root and flourished.  I am very happy with the dedication that the volunteers have shown over the last few years

Do NS prisoners keep in touch?

Yes, we all keep in touch as much as we possibly can and I do pass details on to others.  The same applies for those around Europe and the USA.  Much information is passed to the German POW group ‘HNG’ who work very hard for all prisoners.  Comrades even have socials to raise funds for NS prisoners so numerous things are being done. 

Do you think enough is being done for our prisoners?

I think comrades and British groups should be doing a lot more to support our political prisoners.  It is the same old people that keep putting themselves out when it should be everyone doing their bit.  A couple of pounds in jail can go a long way-please remember that next time you’re buying a pint!  There is only one group that dedicates all their time and effort in helping NS prisoners, they are called H.N.G. and are based in Germany.  I am always passing details of prisoners to them so they can be added to their database so others can contact them.  Getting a letter or two under your cell door can make a big difference when you’re behind bars. 

You are known as a leading member of the Racial Volunteer Force (RVF). Could you give us a brief summary of the ideals and objectives of the RVF?

From the start the RVF has always been involved in unity, even through our zines we promoted it.  Our aim is to carry on that work by building friendships with all the good apples within the movement as a whole.  This is done on a global basis and is not dependent on which specific NS group anyone is affiliated with.  As long as someone is active we will work with them. 

We will never work with any bad apples whose objective is to stop our aims.  No doubt ZOG will be reading what I’ve got to say but do I care?  Do I fuck!  I know that once all the good apples are in the same basket under the RVF’s motto (Together We Are Strong) we will make many, many waves and bring about a brighter future for our children. 

Is the RVF just a UK based movement or is it active in other Aryan countries?

No the RVF is not just a UK movement; the RVF has always been set up under a European NS movement which is thus organised by those around the continent.  I believe that it will soon spread into the USA as many USA Brothers and Sisters want to work with us.  Many European Countries have RVF cells within them and they are working hard together towards unity and the fourteen words.

Since you were jailed the British National Party under Nick Griffin has made significant gains in elections but at the same time seem to have sold out the original beliefs with non-White members and support for Israel and the Jews. What are your opinions on the BNP as it stands today?

Yes I have heard many things about the BNP and I don’t want to waste my ink talking about them.  Griffin has made the BNP into a bit of a joke in comparison to the days when people like JT and R. Edmonds were involved.  Bring back the days of ‘Rights For Whites’ and kick all the non-Aryan Whites, Race-mixing traitors and sexual deviants out!  Just look at Griffin’s track record, every group he has EVER been involved in has been fucked up by him big time with him causing splits.  Because of him (and others) the NF split in 1986 because they got greedy after Ian Stuart’s songs, made under White Noise Records, they were pocketing the money for themselves.  Griffin has shown the rest of us his true colors once again and that he’s been sucking up to our enemies by claiming the BNP isn’t racist.  Well we can all see that with the scum that’s in the BNP now!!!

We hear many comrades talk about unity, what’s your view on it?

Well I am fully behind unity and the RVF has always backed it right from the start.  Even the zine Stormer was based on unity which went down very well globally.  I am looking forward to my release so I can go to the unity socials and gigs that will take place.  I know full well that unity will not happen over night, it will take hard work and even though there are many that don’t want to see a unified movement and will do anything to prevent it happening, I believe these people are the minority.  Many comrades around the World want unity and we are already seeing British groups working together which is brilliant and a sign that it is all starting to happen.  Of course ZOG and their agents will try to prevent unity by persistently persecuting Nationalists and sending them to prison on jumped up charges but because of who we are and what we believe in we have to expect anything and everything.  I salute all the dedicated Comrades who are working hard to implement unity. 

Since your time in the movement what groups have you been involved with?

At around fifteen or sixteen I got involved with the local Egham) National Front branch which went very well – lots of people got involved including the Slough National Front branch and we used to go to Skrewdriver gigs and other events together in London.  After a while I lost interest in the political side of things and became more interested in direct action.  I did little bits for the local BNP then became involved with the K.K.K., C18 and finally the RVF.  I will never forget my C18 days up until 1997 as the organisation behind it was very good back then, they did a great job.  I left C18 because I believe it had had its day and it had served its purpose as a direct action group and many others believed it had run its course.  Everyone around London knows full well of the reasons I had to leave C18 but I firmly believe I did the right thing even though they blame me instead of blaming themselves for their downfall.  That is an easy way out in my opinion though, to blame me, but those around me all know the REAL reasons and that’s all that matters to me.

OK then Atki, is there anything else you’d like to add to this interview?

Yeah – it’s been good doing this interview for you and I hope those who read it like it too.  I am so looking forward to meeting up with my family and my children and they are all looking forward to my release date.  I am also looking forward to meeting those who I’ve not seen for a while and of course those who have supported me.

Looking back on my sentence I have had some right laughs at those who have tried to put me and the RVF down.  Scum!  But as I keep saying, I have nothing to hide and I am not going to sink to their level because I am better than them.  I am not going to waste my time naming these three degenerates who have shown their true colours to the rest of the movement over their actions.  Because of their actions against us they have crumbled and we have grown, that is all I am going to say on the matter.  I will always remember the best years of C18 and not the bad ones.  I also wanted to make it clear that the RVF HASN’T changed its name to the BFF and we never will; it seems that a comrade at the BPP meeting in London on the 27^th July in London claimed that the RVF had changed it's name when the BPP speaker was talking about the RVF so I hope this has cleared all of that up!  However, the RVF and BFF have planned many activities together in the near future.

TOGETHER WE ARE STRONG

Atki - June 2008